💡 Everyday Tech Hacks for Work and Life: Practical Tips You Can Use Right Away (with Jonathan Bravo)

Frank Bravo 0:00
Hi and welcome to your Tech Makeover, the podcast that gives you tips and tricks to help simplify and get more out of the technology in your life. I'm your host, Frank Bravo. Today is going to be something a little different. You've probably already noticed that this episode is a little longer than usual. I'm super excited to bring you a conversation with Jonathan Bravo, the director of marketing and communications for the Fresno Grizzlies, a minor league baseball team and Single-A affiliate of the Colorado Rockies. And if you haven't put it together already, Jonathan's my son. So without that, let's get started. Hey, Jonathan, how are you?

Jonathan Bravo 0:39
Hey. I'm good dad. How are you?

Frank Bravo 0:40
I'm doing very well, thanks. I appreciate you being here on your tech. Back over to talk about technology and what technology has made your life simpler. Both personally and as a director of marketing for the Grizzlies. So maybe you could just start by telling us briefly about, you know, what you do day in and day out and how you use technology in your world.

Jonathan Bravo 1:03
Sure. Absolutely. So my main responsibilities with the team is trying to fill up your chances, Park as much as we can on a given day. You know, we have 66 home Fresno Grizzlies games every single year, but we also have a lot of non baseball events as well, including our, you know, world famous Taco Truck Throwdown award winning tequila fest. Just really doing everything we can to help bring the best product possible to the Central Valley and to downtown Fresno. To answer the question about technology, I mean, I am constantly surrounded by technology. Every single day I'm having this conversation with you on my phone with three separate screens all around me. I've got big, smart TV behind me like it is. It's kind of a running joke in the office. Not going to lie. I am the not it it person in the office. So, you know, I mean, it's everything from running social media, the website, using productivity tools and again, everything to really accomplish that common goal of putting on the best product possible for our team.

Frank Bravo 2:02
So, so to to ask a totally self-serving question, you grew up with me always talking about tech. I mean, tech has been in our house since you were an infant, you know, how did I influence your technology and what did you rebel against in my advice? I mean, if we were talking to your brother, I know exactly what he would answer. But you know what? What would you come up with?

Jonathan Bravo 2:24
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the list is kind of endless, right? Whether you're talking about my love for Apple products, is, I think, a kind of good one to start out. Right? We've got that really great photo of me in our kitchen. I mean, gosh, was probably the first house right standing at the computer at an Apple computer.

Frank Bravo 2:43
A little iMac, I believe.

Jonathan Bravo 2:44
Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, that's kind of thing. One a you know, I'm very passionate about our marketing department working on Apple devices, you know, especially when we are so heavily focused on the creative, aspect of our business. I always find that that's where we get the most output from, for sure. I mean, my organization is completely digital, right? I have very little I said, very little pen paper as I look around and my my desk is full of paper because we're ten days away from opening day. But, I mean, I used to do us to keep track of my daily life. My inbox is my checklist kind of deal. Constantly striving for inbox zero. And just really, everything around me is technology in one way or another, because I find that it just really helps, just streamline what I'm doing on a day to day basis.

Frank Bravo 3:36
So, you know, we all download apps all the time. You know, we use them a few times and we get rid of them. What are some hidden gems that you use either personally or in your job that makes your life easier, that you absolutely swear by, that you could not get by without having.

Jonathan Bravo 3:52
Sure. Yeah. I mean, first and foremost to do list, no question at all. Which I picked up again from you. But.

Frank Bravo 3:59
Actually, I think it might have been the other way around. I believe that you might have the. The story that I tell is that you found it somewhere along the way, when I was looking for a way to keep track of projects, and you were like, hey, you know, what about this tool that I just stumbled across? And I've actually told that story to the people at Todoist and they're like, oh my gosh, when was that? And I tried to work backwards, but I believe you were in high school when that started. Oh, so this is I mean, at least a dozen years ago.

Jonathan Bravo 4:27
Yeah. No, I would credit it with getting me through high school, getting me through college, you know, getting me through day to day. Like it. Truly. My life lives on Todoist to the point where we've onboarded our entire marketing team. It is our project management software. Like we truly, if it's not on Todoist or not in a new email, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist to me. So definitely that. And then, you know, the very hot, answer right now is ChatGPT, right? Which isn't a hidden gem by any stretch of the imagination. But when you talk about efficiency, especially this time of year for us as we're getting ready for Opening day, if there's some very simple tasks that I can just offload and just have done and done well, then I will absolutely lean on that. Both both on the desktop and on mobile as well.

Frank Bravo 5:15
So you spend a lot of time with social media. So I wanted to ask you some things around that. So what social media is everywhere were inundated by it constantly. And you use tech every day for marketing like you mentioned. You know, what's one tool or one trick that an average person can use in their life when it comes to digital, social media and interacting with the, the platforms, it can seem like a chore sometimes, but I'm sure you have found ways to make it easier to make it less overwhelming. And whether you're sharing like family updates or you're running a side hustle, or you're in charge of marketing for a minor league baseball team, there must be some tricks that you've come up with and some apps that you're using that make your life easier.

Jonathan Bravo 6:01
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you hit the nail on the head where especially on the business side, it can feel like a chore sometimes, right? It can feel like, oh, it's just one more thing and you kind of feel a pressure to constantly feel creative and constantly come up with new cutting edge ideas. And it doesn't really have to be like that. You know, a lot of our most successful pieces of content are ones that are very spontaneous for the moment, literally, as we're talking right now, are head groundskeepers rebuilding the pitching mound on the at the ballpark. And, you know, that's an incredible piece of behind the scenes content that no one gets to see that, you know, someone else is doing all the work for it. Right? We're just taking a photo. But, you know, that's the kind of content that will really do. Well, we do have an ongoing social media calendar on Todoist, where, you know, we, we constantly keep an eye on, you know, what's coming up in the coming weeks or things of that nature. What what I found very helpful. And again, I know this is all very business related, but it's build that foundation with your, social media schedule, you know, get all the stuff you know, you have to do. Schedule out there on the way, you know, whether it's for us upcoming promotions or, you know, just generic single game tickets. If if you have that generic foundation, then you'll kind of be set and you can build on top of that as things come, you know, working working in baseball with a lot of small businesses, it's a lot of you don't know what you're getting yourself into every single day. And for us to be able to have that strong foundation of, you know, hey, I know that this post and this post is going up, but if something really cool, spur of the moment comes up, we got space to fit it in, is really good. And then so I think above all, just real final point is keep it organic, right? You doesn't need to be a million graphics. It doesn't need to be constant transactional. You know, for us showing what's going on at the ballpark on a given night, you know, pictures of people smiling and being happy is totally worth it.

Frank Bravo 7:52
So are you using any tools to to make that happen, or is it kind of just your standard stuff? I mean, what could somebody who has a Facebook account, has a Twitter account, has a Instagram account personally and wants to start sharing more content? You know what? What kind of tools are you using that maybe will make their ability to do this easier or more streamline?

Jonathan Bravo 8:16
Sure. So every single one of those platforms you mentioned have native scheduling and analytics tools already built in. So we as an organization do not pay for a, you know, any special tool on the social media side or anything like that. We use stuff that already comes with the platform. You know, on the small business side, meta, Facebook, Instagram has an incredible, meta business suite where you've got all the analytics, all the calendar, all things of that nature. Same with X, you're able to completely schedule no matter if you've got a business account or personal account. So, you know, we really don't use anything special. We're just very mindful about, you know, how often we're doing it. And I found personally, it's very easy to let multiple days slip by. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, crap, I haven't posted in weeks. So, you know, being very mindful of that, carving out a little bit of time every day, if it is something you're passionate about and is something that you want to, you know, build your presence on a little bit more, to just give it a little bit of time and it will pay off.

Frank Bravo 9:16
So you obviously spend a lot of time thinking about this and a lot of time doing it. What's one of the biggest misconceptions that people understand, that people don't understand about social media, and that you wish as a marketer, they did.

Jonathan Bravo 9:29
Sure. I think the biggest thing is you don't need to spend hours and hours on content, right. You know, I, I know other people in the industry who will put in literal days of work on a video and get no payoff. Right. And it's just being very mindful about what limited resources you have and how you can execute the most efficiently. Again, a it's the old adage of a picture can tell thousand words or whatever the actual saying is. So, you know, you don't need to reinvent the wheel. You don't need to go crazy with it. Just be your authentic self or be your authentic brand, because that's why your fans are following you. That's why your family's, you know, connecting with you. They want to see what your family members are doing or what you're up to, and you don't need to reinvent the wheel to get really strong engagement.

Frank Bravo 10:17
And that's a great tip, because I think so often people do think, oh my gosh, I have to spend all this time to get just the right wording or just the right thing done, when in reality those posts are there for a second and then gone. And it's really the visuals a lot of the time, unless you're in a text field like, you know, X is kind of more. I said Twitter earlier, I meant X, of course, is more even that's turned into more video and image focused. And I know that one thing that you've told me is that you don't need fancy equipment to do this because our phones are good enough, or are way better than even we need for simple social media. And I know that you've taken some pretty cool photos. Some have been with your high end camera, but I've seen great photos and videos done with your just off the shelf iPhone with nothing extra. So maybe you could talk real quick about, you know what, what kind of equipment you use kind of day to day getting that shot of the ballpark or getting that, you know, winning run, crossing the home plate when it's not your super expensive camera or it's not the video feed from the, from the stadium.

Jonathan Bravo 11:29
Yeah. I am all about the, you know, Apple campaign. The hashtag shot on iPhone. Like like you said it, it is a more powerful of a tool than most people ever need in their careers. Right? The cameras on these devices, the the fact that, you know, with extension or attaching an SSD, I'm able to do 4K ProRes on my iPhone is nicer than what I can do with our alpha Sony Alpha 6600. That's, you know, 4000, $5,000. Right? So absolutely leaning into the portability of it now, I have found that each of them have their own place. Right. If for we just had a soccer match this last weekend. Yeah, I could get some incredible photos with my phone. But for those really, really high res, you know, they just need to really punctuate what we're going for. I did bust out the Sony camera, but you know, especially if you're just running around town, pull out your phone. You know, there's a I feel like in the past couple of years it really since Covid, we've moved away from the you have to have thousands of dollars worth of equipment. And you you know, you really need to invest in a gimbal and a tripod and blah, blah, blah. And it's a lot more common now to just pull out your iPhone and shoot as it should be, right? These phones are so much more powerful than they used to be. They're not, you know, you're grainy you two pixel two megapixel images anymore. Like they are truly high quality 4K images and you should really lean into it.

Frank Bravo 12:57
Yeah. I mean, there's no question that our iPhones I mean, in my life, the iPhone is by far the best camera I've ever owned because I've never had a full body camera. I've never been wanting to learn. I mean, I could probably figure it out, but wanting to learn how all those work and, you know, God bless photographers that take amazing photos on these high end cameras. But for my use and for I think most people's use point and shoot was the way to go. And now we're carrying around basically a studio in our pockets.

Jonathan Bravo 13:25
Yeah. Well, and, you know, it's so incredible because you've got your stock Apple Camera app, right, which takes amazing photos, has a lot of incredible computational photography built into it, especially with HDR video, which is taking all the exposures and doing all this really fancy computing work. And you you're right, you are able to get studio quality images and video straight from your phone. But if you also want to take that next level, I mean, a Lightroom and Photoshop both have full, like full service apps on iOS, right? You're talking to the full power of Photoshop and Lightroom in your pocket. There are pro camera apps you can lean into, whether it's, you know, the Black magic, camera act or Defense or app or DaVinci resolve or even halide is a great camera, still camera app. So a lot of different options for those kind of more pro users. But you don't have to get into that. But it's a really good entry level, I find for people. Yeah.

Frank Bravo 14:25
I was gonna say, do you know if those are free apps or if those are free to try? And then by I mean, I know you've shown me some cool apps over the years. And I believe most of them are free or at least free trials.

Jonathan Bravo 14:38
Yeah. Halide is free. They have a video app that they just released that the name is escaping me right now, but that's another one that's free with, you know, paid features. I want to say the Da Vinci resolve ones completely free and then Final Cut Pro as well. Now, if you want to get Final Cut Pro on your computer, it's like $500. But at least the iPhone camera app itself is free as well. So very low to zero barrier to entry to get a little bit of your hands dirty with these higher end products.

Frank Bravo 15:10
And I have to imagine that if, if there's if those apps I mean Final Cut Pro is not. But if those apps aren't available on a Android device, there are similar devices, similar apps that would work very similarly on those, Android devices.

Jonathan Bravo 15:24
Yeah. Well, and I am sure my brother Spencer is going to give me some crap for this. But, you know, that is something Android phones do really, really well where a lot of those pro features are baked in to stock camera app. You know, when when we were on vacation a couple of weeks ago, Spencer was showing me all these amazing features that his stock camera app could do. And I was like, man, I really wish I had access to those kind of things. So, you know, you get some of the good with the bad.

Frank Bravo 15:52
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I remember seeing some of those photos that he took of the eclipse that we had a few weeks ago and how how amazing that was literally from his phone. So I'll try to include some links to some of those apps in the show notes after we're done here. Switching gears a little bit, I wanted to kind of talk inside Baseball with you a little bit about how you're doing things at the ballpark. I mean, you work in an industry that's about fun and entertainment, and especially in the minor league ballparks. You know, it's it's about the product on the field, but it's almost more about the atmosphere of being at the ballpark. You know, what kind of tech do you use to help keep things light and engaging in your atmosphere at the ballpark?

Jonathan Bravo 16:36
Sure, absolutely. So I mean, it goes everywhere from the kind of visuals we have on the video board to the kind of audio we're playing, to even the kind of visuals we have on our digital menu boards. You know, everything we do here, we try to do with the entertainment aspect in mind. So whether that's, you know, making sure that our on field activities are, you know, fun and engaging or are, you know, graphics are easy to read up on the video board. And, you know, if the if the kid you're with sees Bluey up on the video board and sees that he's coming to the ballpark, that hopefully he's turned into his parents and saying, hey, can we go? So I think a lot of what we do, yeah, we've got fancy cameras and we've got, you know, great sound bites and an incredible speaker system in the whole nine yards. But it's how can we take that experience and present it to the masses? Right. We kind of use the mindset of, you know, let's go ahead and make this experience so great that if you weren't here and we post about it on social media, you're like, man, I really wish I should have been. So that is, you know, capturing video of every single in-game element that we do that's, you know, having our photographer go around taking photos and bringing it back to the having a camera in your pocket. It's the encouraging our staff that if you see, you know, priceless moment. If you see something that's really cool, whip out your phone, take a photo, send it to me. You know, let's go ahead and use our staff, of which we've got, you know, on a lot of games, 100 plus people working for us at a given night to get this ballpark going. I, I can't be any I can't be everywhere. My marketing staff can't be everywhere. But our staff as a whole can. So, you know, let's encourage everyone to help kind of focus on that common good of spreading the word of Grizzlies baseball.

Frank Bravo 18:16
A quick shout out to listeners like you who helped make your technique over possible. Your support helps keep this podcast going, and I truly appreciate it. Want to contribute? Just click the link in the show notes or visit your Tech Make Overcome Plus as a thank you support who give $25 or more, we'll get $25 off at one time. Consultation with me to help you simplify your tech. Thanks for being part of the your tech make over community. Now back to the conversation. So do you have things that are. Available to your staff? I mean, obviously you have a lot of seasonal employees. You have a lot of people that are there. The the ushers, the the food servers, the ticket takers, all those kind of people. Are there organizational organization that you have so that people can send you stuff, or is it pretty much ad hoc? Because I'm thinking about how families kind of get together. I mean, again, we just experienced this on vacation where you have a group of people together and everybody's taking photos, everybody's creating media. And how do you kind of share that? So, you know, how are you organizing those schedules, organizing shared memories that you're doing at the ballpark? Because you have to on a grand level, but also could be used in a home setting?

Jonathan Bravo 19:33
Sure. Yeah, absolutely. A lot of it is very ad hoc in terms of me collecting all the data, you know, whether it's I am very open with my cell phone number, like if a staff member wants to text me something, I encourage it. Absolutely. Same with my email. But once I gather all of that, we do have a flicker account, which holds every single image we have collected or taken since 2019. And those are.

Frank Bravo 19:59
Something that you manage or is that something that is kind of public?

Jonathan Bravo 20:04
It's something I manage in the sense that I upload things, but it is completely public, free to anyone. You know, our mindset is an organization. There's kind of two ways you can think about it, especially in the sporting industry where it's, you know, either it's my content and I don't want anyone to have it because it's my content and I want, you know, to get credit for it or it's the opposite of, you know, please take it. If you want to post a photo about a Grizzlies game, go for it. Like that's what I want. And you know, we advertise that link to our fans, to our players. As a kind of one stop shop, you know, source of truth for every single image we post. And you talk about sharing, you know, those photos that's that's so much easier than having players either DM us on Instagram or, you know, fans asking, hey, how can I get this photo? And then you got to get their email, remember to send it to them, blah, blah, blah. You know, if we have everything live in this one source of truth. And another great example, Google Photos, which you kind of alluded to, iCloud has another great opportunity as well through the Apple's Photo app. We just our program of choice for that is Flickr.

Frank Bravo 21:12
Makes sense. Makes sense. So you know, I, I have insight into what goes on in the Grizzlies marketing and how that all works. But maybe you can tell us about a behind the scenes technology that you use in sports marketing that the average person or baseball fan may not know about. I mean, you talked about players a little bit, which is kind of an interesting thing because your public is not only the public that walks through the turnstiles, but it's also the fans of the game and the fans of certain players. And I know that you have people coming and going from the ballpark constantly. And there might be behind the scenes tech that we don't know about because we're not in it every day, but could totally benefit from if we were using it, or at least having an idea that it was out there.

Jonathan Bravo 22:00
Sure, absolutely. I mean, I think it all starts with that organizational side of things, right? Whether it's your to do list or things like that. Like, truly, I feel that that's the foundation for everything else. And, you know, kind of what we talk about during the off season is, you know, getting all of the hard admin work done out of the way so you can do all the fun stuff, during the season. And that's really where Todoist comes in, is the keeping track of all of that stuff. Some tools we use that aren't really secret per se, but are great ways, especially on the social media side. Are, you know, using Instagram collaborations goes a really long way towards building our audiences. You know, not only do we have the cool opportunity of celebrating our players, but when you have whether it's big celebrities come to the ballpark or, you know, a getting involved with the Rockies or Major League Baseball, that's a really good tool we have at our disposal as well to help build our audience organically.

Frank Bravo 22:56
So talk a little bit about, integrations and how that works and how how somebody might use that in their everyday Instagram life.

Jonathan Bravo 23:06
Yeah, absolutely. So it's just like tagging someone when you go to post a photo, but it's a called a, you can tag them as a collaborator. And what that does is it gets your post to show up as if it was their post as well. So let's say I do a post and then I tag, you know, Frank Bravo as a collaborator. Not only will it show to my audience, it will show to your audience as well. So it's a really cool way to not only show joint partnerships. Right? And show really strong connection between you and other people, you and other brands. But it's a really good way to hit audiences that might know about you, but might not either a be following your stuff or be, be seeing your stuff on a regular basis.

Frank Bravo 23:48
So the person that you're collaborating with, do they have to then approve it, or how does that process go? Because, you know, it would be great if I could tag, you know, anybody and it show up in their feed. But I gotta imagine there's some rules that go along with that.

Jonathan Bravo 24:01
Yeah. You're telling me. No. It sends the person on Instagram direct message as well as a notification saying, you know, hey, at the Real Jam Bravo or at Fresno Grizzlies just sent you a collaboration request, and then you can go in and approve it or deny, you know, what we find we get a lot of success with is if we're announcing, you know, something big or if we're, you know, going to go ahead and send a request to a celebrity or big brand or something like that, we'll have a conversation offline first and make sure that, you know, our post fits well in their schedule, that it is something that they're going to be willing to accept and collaborate with. One of the limitations of the platform is you can only collaborate with, I think, five other accounts at a time. So when we're when we're dealing with the big announcements, we've got a lot of either local partners or different people involved. We have to be really selective about who we sell the send those collaboration invites to. So it's the having those conversations offline first and also gives them a heads up that they're coming, right. People are constantly inundated with notifications on their devices, so it gives them a heads up, hey, this is coming down the pike. You know, make sure to go accept it.

Frank Bravo 25:10
So do you do that with players or is it really more the other way around? The players might bring you guys in as the collaborator in that case. Or and do you offer it up to the public? I mean, if I came out to the ballpark and took an awesome photo, posted it on my Instagram, could I then create you as create the Fresno Grizzlies as a collaborator and get that kind of elevated to a different level?

Jonathan Bravo 25:33
Yeah, truly, all of the above. You know, we're very much about promoting our players and, you know, helping them build their brands, especially in 2025. You know, their personal brand is as big of a part of them as, you know, playing for the Colorado Rockies organization. So anytime that we can help grow these guys, a little bit, then, you know, we're all for it. The other thing is, a lot of these guys will come in with really established followings as well. So it benefits us. You know, it. Family members and their friends and their followers want to see what their team is doing. So by having that kind of cross brand promotion, it kind of causes best of both worlds. And then your final question. Yes, absolutely. We're constantly keeping an eye out for whether it's fans, local influencers or, corporate partners sending us collaboration invites. We're we're all for it. You know, the way we see it is it's it's more great content. We're all about, you know, the organic content from our fans. And any way we can highlight that, whether it's in, collaboration posts on Instagram or it's sharing their posts on Instagram Stories, retweeting it, or I guess sharing it on X, sharing it on Facebook. You know, we are constantly looking for that. And that's another great point to, you know, yeah, maybe someone like the San Francisco Giants won't necessarily accept a colab invite, right? They got very set mindset of how they want their social media schedule to look like and all that. But small businesses, absolutely something that they're probably already looking at.

Frank Bravo 27:02
Interesting. Yeah. And and not to see the San Francisco Giants may not do that, but it's probably not. It's probably not in their wheelhouse because they're generating so much content that you're right. They don't want that kind of injected into their feeds. And kind of along those same lines is there's so much out there now, there's so much happening in the community. There's so many different channels that you can see that on, and you're constantly promoting events. I mean, if it's not baseball happening tonight, which is not I mean, it's not tonight, but, you know, if it's not baseball happening in a near future. It's a concert or it's a soccer game or it's something else. It's an event that's happening at the ballpark that is inviting the community to come in without having without people having to, to jump through hoops to figure out the best way to keep up with these. How do you keep track of things going on in your community? And, you know, are there apps or tools that you're using so that you don't have to dig through these endless posts?

Jonathan Bravo 28:02
Yeah, no, that's a great question. And some of it is just constant socialist listening. You know, we've done a pretty good job of refining who we follow on the Grizzlies accounts to make sure that, you know, yeah. As much as I would love to follow every single one of our fans and, you know, a follow tens upon tens of thousands of people, you know, we are thankfully at a point in our social presence, where that's not part of our growth strategy. So we have refined who we're following to those local community partners, people who we know are putting on big events. I think the other thing is just constant communication, either internally in our front office or with those events themselves. You know, it at the end of the day, really a lot of people's mindset here in Fresno is kind of the rising tide raises all boats. Right? So if this person's event does well, it's good for downtown Fresno and it's good for the community as a whole. So keeping an eye out for that. We have a lot of either ticket trade partnerships or advertising trade partnerships with these events. So, you know, whether it's sending our mascot out there or sending them tickets to raffle off at their event, it's a really good way for us to keep an eye on everything that's happening in the community, and then using that to help, support our events as well.

Frank Bravo 29:17
That makes total sense. That makes total sense. Let me ask you this. You we talked a lot about technology. We talked a lot about apps. What was the first piece of technology that helped you feel independent? You know, was it was it a phone? Was it a laptop? Was it something else, you know, a Game Boy or you know what what piece of technology growing up did you feel like, oh my gosh, I feel like I am totally independent or I'm independent. I'm a grown up, if you will.

Jonathan Bravo 29:44
Yeah. In terms of independent, probably my first phone, which, you know, had the slide out keyboard, and was this bright red and just totally awesome, with the sprint branding across the top, which would never happen today. For many reasons, I guess. So, yeah. And that's probably high up there. I mean, obviously having my first laptop was big, which was the, gosh, it couldn't have been more than like a ten inch screen if that. It was pretty small and like plastic. Like if. Fantastic. It's I, I think it still runs probably. I don't know where it is. But it probably still kicks on. So I mean, that was big. Obviously. You know, we had the old iMac in my room for a while there. And then the tower before that, which was a mac as well. But I'd say in terms of, like, independence. Definitely that phone.

Frank Bravo 30:41
Okay. Well, cool. Well, I, I, I would I would have answered that same way because I think that that truly gave gives people the independence to do lots of different things. And especially now, I mean, you're right, your first phone was a slide out. You know, you could text on it, which was cool, but I don't even think you could do. Video or image sending on it.

Jonathan Bravo 31:04
I don't think you could know. It probably would have just been SMS which is a little ridiculous to think about.

Frank Bravo 31:11
I know. Crazy. That was not that long ago. So Jonathan. Yeah yeah yeah it wasn't that long ago. So as we're looking to, to close this up, I wanted to ask you one more thing. I think I kind of know the answer to this just because you and I have talked, but but for the for the your tech makeover audience, you know, what are three apps that you personally could not do without?

Jonathan Bravo 31:36
Oh, are we including, like, stock apps as well, like messages and mail and all that?

Frank Bravo 31:43
I would say, you know, if you if you could only have three apps on your phone, what three apps would it would be the or what are the first three apps you would want on your phone? Maybe that's a different way or your computer because I mean, so often your devices are it can be either your, your device being your phone or your desktop computer or your laptop or your iPad. You know what? Maybe, maybe better is a category of of apps. This way you're not targeting in on a particular app.

Jonathan Bravo 32:14
Yeah, definitely. Communications messaging apps. You know, if we're talking about three specific apps, definitely the Apple Messages, like I do so much business on a daily basis through that as as well as keeping up with friends and family and all of that. That's like it. Truly. If that was just to disappear, I would be lost for sure. To do us, which I keep bringing up again and again and again. Just because that's what keeps me organized and, you know, a sane, so to speak. I could probably, if I only have to pick three, I could probably do away with mail. Probably my calendar app would be the other one, too. Is that, you know, that's that's kind of the third. That's a very much is as much as to do us in my emails or tasks, my calendars. Very much of what keeps me, you know, focused in on what I'm doing on a day to day basis. So, so boring as that sounds. Messages, calendar and my task manager app. That that's probably the way I'd go.

Frank Bravo 33:16
That makes total sense. So, Jonathan, how can somebody get Ahold of you? I mean, where where can we find you online?

Jonathan Bravo 33:22
Yeah, absolutely. So I am on social media, on Facebook, Instagram X, as at the real J m Bravo. I am on LinkedIn as Jonathan Bravo just looked for me in my Grizzlies gear. I'm always happy to have people reach out to me, whether it's, you know, people interested in getting into the sports industry or just want to hear a little bit more about me and my journey or, you know, again, people can email me at J Bravo at Fresno grizzlies.com. You know, whether they're again interested in the sports industry, what we do here in downtown Fresno or any bit of my journey. But I always love talking with people, especially, you know, passionate people who are interested and, you know, marketing or the sports industry. And look forward to people reaching out.

Frank Bravo 34:06
And I'd encourage you, if you're in the Central Valley and you want to catch a baseball game, go check out the Grizzlies at your chancy park. I mean, it's a great ballpark. And it's not just about the baseball. It's about the entertainment. And, you know, search Jonathan out. I'm sure he'd be happy to say hi. Jonathan, I really appreciate you being the guinea pig for this type of podcast. And, we'll see if it goes. If it goes, well, maybe I'll have you back again and we can talk more technology.

Jonathan Bravo 34:34
No, that would be great, I enjoyed it. Thank you so much for me being the inaugural, interviewee. And yeah, it was fun. Dad.

Frank Bravo 34:42
Great, great. Good to see you. If if you'd like to know more about technology or if you have stories that would help make other people their technology better and easier in their life, or if you have other topics that you'd like me to cover on the podcast, please feel free to contact me at Frank at your Tech makeover.com. And so that's it for now. Thanks for joining your tech makeover. And before I go, I wanted to remind you to please subscribe to the podcast on your favorite podcast platform so that you don't miss an episode. You can also visit your Tech makeover.com for more details and different places to listen. And if you want to find out more about me, you can check out Bravo it's com. Until next time, I'm Frank Bravo, and this has been your technique over.